E230: When your customers complain + sell without selling (Q&A)

January 16, 2024


How does your organization approach and manage product failures when they occur?


There are times when your service fails, and customers are unhappy.


You might even start to lose faith in what you are selling.


In this episode I discuss how to overcome that, mentally, as a salesperson.


The second topic for this episode is around selling without “selling”.


It’s helping people buy versus PUSHING them with your sales pitch.




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  • Show Transcript

    Jason: A lot of times salespeople get excited. They don't want to point out the negatives. They are not confident in maybe themselves or their sales process. They're worried about pointing out those things that somebody else might view as a trade off. When in fact, what you want to do as a salesperson is make sure it's a good fit.


    Point out the positives, but then also bring to light any trade offs or anything that the customer might experience that could be negative, but they understand it's part of the process. Welcome to the sales experience podcast, the show for salespeople and sales leaders, where we help you create the ideal sales experience to generate raving fan customers.


    Grab your notepad and get ready for actionable steps. You can use to change sales from a dirty word to an active service for your prospects. Now for your host, Jason Cotter.


    I am so glad that you're here. I'm so glad that you're taking the time to hopefully up a level your sales career or your sales team by listening to podcasts like this. Hopefully you've subscribed. If not, make sure to subscribe. And if you like this, leave a rating and a review. And in this episode, I am going to address some.

    Sales related questions to try to help everybody in sales, do more, be more and sell more with their career and achieve their goals. Now let's go ahead and jump into this episode. Hey, what's going on in today's topic. I want to answer a question from Wendy bat, and this is regarding the authentic persuasion Q and a sessions that I've been doing.


    So what Wendy sent me was. A challenge would be continuing to believe in your product when it fails. There's actually a second question, but let's address this one first. So what do you do when your product fails? So when customers are buying it, when you sell it to somebody and it doesn't live up to what happened or what the expectation was set, what should have happened?


    This could be a couple of different reasons and so it's important to understand which is the case. Is it that what you sold isn't a good product or service and such that like it needs to be tweaked, it needs to be changed, it needs to be improved, or it shouldn't exist? And if that's the case and it's not going to improve, My suggestion would be to move on and go sell something else that you can believe in and stand by and trust that it's going to happen and work like it's supposed to or provide the value to the customer like you're telling them that it will.


    So that would be the first thing. The other part is that sometimes what happens is sales people get excited and they sell something to somebody. Move a prospect forward into being a customer when it's not a good fit or they over exaggerate or they only focus on the positives without pointing out any of the downsides or negatives.


    And I have this debate with people all the time, especially founders who think they've created something that solves all the world's. Problems and is perfect in every single way. Like a parent who thinks their child is the perfect child and can do no wrong with every product or service for the positives that it has, there's always a negative or some kind of trade off or some kind of consequence, right?


    So let's say a car, it might be great at this, but it's not great at that, right? Could be comfortable and safe for the family, but it might not be fast, right? It might be fast, but it might not be comfortable for more than two people or for driving long. There's so many things that a product could have as their positive and their negative or what somebody might perceive as a negative trade off for that item.


    It's just the case, right? Like they say, good, fast, or cheap, two out of the three, but never all three. Even if you're buying paper towels, you can't have amazing paper towels that are also cheap and effective. It usually doesn't work that way. So there's some kind of trade off. And a lot of times salespeople get excited.


    They don't want to point out the negatives. They're not confident in maybe themselves or their sales process. They're worried about pointing out those things that somebody else might view as a trade off. When in fact, what you want to do as a salesperson is make sure it's a good fit, point out the positives, but then also bring to light any trade offs or anything that the customer might experience that could be negative or they might not like, but they understand it's part of the process.


    And so it's key to do that because if you don't do that, What happens is somebody becomes a customer and then they get upset because the expectation was set that this is a purple unicorn that will solve all of their problems. That's the perfect fit and does everything that needs to be done with no downsides.


    It's the wonder drug and then life doesn't work that way. There's always something. There's always some kind of trade off with everything. And so it's important as a salesperson to always point that out because what I see. As salespeople sometimes thinking that their product or service doesn't work or that it failed or that it's not effective, a lot of times is the expectation being set up front that's not possible when the customer becomes a customer and starts using that product or service.


    So that's the first, if it's obviously failing, if it's not a good fit, then either hopefully the company will fix it or you can go sell something else. And then also always make sure you're setting the right expectation, not the positive. Not the great expectation, but the real expectation of the positives and the potential negatives of your product or service.


    So that's the first answer to the first question. Second question that Wendy sent to me was competing against low cost providers when the majority of customers have been facing budget cuts. Obviously right now we're dealing with this global pandemic. We're dealing with economic crisis. Everyday reports are coming out about different countries in different areas going into a recession officially and what's been happening the last few months.


    And so here's the thing is when you're competing against low cost providers, you're never going to win because it's going to be a race to the bottom. If you're selling something of value that actually will help your prospects in some way, help them gain or achieve a goal or help them avoid pain or loss.


    If you're helping them in some way, it should not be about the lowest cost option, but the best fit and the best value. Now, Obviously, if people are facing budget cuts or financial challenges, you want to be respectful of that and you want to make sure it's still a good fit, but you've got to be careful not to give away the farm and cut prices or cut anything like that because what you're doing again, racing to the bottom and you're giving up the price, which is going to undercut the value.


    If you have something that's valuable. People will find a way to pay for it. They'll find a way in their budget to do it.


    Jason: And it's really going to come down to you and your ability to persuade them for the value of what you're selling relative to their needs and their wants and helping them understand that cheaper is not always better.


    At some level you get what you pay for, and that's what you want to make. Sure that your prospects understand and you also have to be fully okay with the fact that you're not gonna win them all you're not gonna get every single deal if people are sensitive on price, because even if you make the sale today, they're gonna think about it and linger and doubt and have buyers remorse that they overpaid that they shouldn't have done it.


    And then that's going to be a tough client to maintain or a customer who may want to return whatever it is that you sold them. So hopefully that helps. Wendy, thanks for this. And if you have a question or anything you want to submit to me, you can do it through LinkedIn. You can also go to jasoncutter.com. And use any of the buttons on there to get in touch with me, set up a free sales power call, as well as find other resources, anything that I can do to help you with your sales career. Hey, it's Jason here. We'll be right back to the podcast. But first, are you ready to change the way you view your selling role and become a sales professional?


    Do you have a team that is hungry for new ways to improve and grow? If so, I have various coaching and consulting programs available that might be great tools to help you achieve your goals. To learn more about the ways we can work together and to book your free sales power call, go to jasoncutter.com.


    Now let's get back to the episode. Today's topic comes from Catherine Adruja and what she asked was, how do you come off as if you aren't selling to them? And then she put golden ticket. So how does it feel like you're not selling to them and they want to buy? And maybe I don't know exactly what she meant by the golden tick part, but I take that to mean like they have found the golden ticket, they want it more than you're having to sell and persuade and twist arms and convince the key is that I have found is that the more you can do the initial parts of the process.


    Which some people would call discovery. I also would call it rapport and empathy, asking questions and building that trust. The more you can take that consultative approach where your number one goal is to build some kind of relationship with them relative to what you're selling and how much is necessary and applicable in that conversation.


    And then also being able to know at the deepest level they will share and that you can. Pull from them through your questions, why they need your product or service. That is the key. Why do they need what you're offering, what you're selling, and why for their reasons, is it important for them? The more you can do that, the less it will feel like selling.


    And the more it will feel like consulting and then persuading them to understand that what you have to offer, if it's a good fit is what they're looking for. That is the solution. Again, they have problem X, you have solution X. This should be a no brainer. They should want it. The key is though, is you've got to make sure they know why they want or need it.


    And you've got to understand that you're always in a battle against your prospects, part of their brain, trying to keep them safe in their comfort zone, seeing change as the enemy and something that could cause harm and or death. That's literally what that part of their brain is saying, what all of our parts of our brain are saying when it comes to change.


    Some people tolerate it more, some people tolerate it a lot less. And so your prospect is coming up against that in their mind, and your goal is to make them feel safe that what you have to offer will get them to where they want to be. When that happens, then it's them asking you to buy. If you're having to ask them if they want to buy.


    Or you're having to trick them or use a lot of slick closing lines in order to trap them in that corner. Then that means you have a battle now and in the future in retaining that customer versus getting the buy. When I hear golden ticket I think of Willy Wonka and the Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.


    And what was that? Nobody had to convince anybody in that movie or in those books that they wanted the golden ticket, that they wanted a chance to get into the chocolate factory. Everyone wanted it because they wanted it for their reasons. And they went nuts. That's the key. So you want to make sure your prospects understand for their reasons why they want it.


    If you are in a sales role, it's your job as a professional to help. Guide them there and uncover that unpack it and then present it to them such that it's a no brainer from their side that they want to buy from you and then they will be happy. Then they will become a raving fan. They may even send you lots of referrals because they bought for their reasons, not your reasons.


    So hopefully that helps. Thank you again, Catherine, for the question, the submission. If you have a question, anything you want to submit to me, send it via LinkedIn. You can also go to Jason cutter. com where you can find lots of other resources. You can book a free sales power call with me, get on the phone.


    We can talk about sales and there's lots of different ways I might be able to help you achieve greater success in your sales career. That's it for today. I'll see you tomorrow.



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By Jason Cutter February 26, 2025
How Can You Predict The Future Of Sales Ops? One of the keys to sales success is to be able to predict the future – what that other person is thinking, what they might say, what they will experience, how they will feel about the product/service. But what can you do – from a sales ops leadership perspective – to predict the future in masse of all the potential customers that will flow into and out of the sales process/funnel? That is a really tough one, but it is doable. Meeting Prospective Customers Where They Are The key is to always meet the prospective customers where they are and with the experience they hope to find. It’s a common theme now in these articles because it’s important AND widely disregarded – your potential customers do not care about you, your sales team, your company, your industry. They don’t care about your stats, your testimonials, your logos. They don’t care about your mission statement or your values. They only care about themselves. They also firmly believe that there is currently unlimited choice for any product/service, which means that everything in their mind is a commodity. Easily replaceable and interchangeable. Nothing (other than iPhones…which you can only get from Apple) is special to consumers unless they feel like it should be special. Are You Still Making It All About You? There is a good chance you are still running a marketing, sales funnel that is all about you. I bet if I looked at your company’s website that from the top down it’s all about you (the company). How great you are. What you do for people. What you have done for others. I bet if I tried to speak with your sales team, I will be made to go through your process whether I like it or not. Maybe fill out a form and wait for a response. Or made to call into a toll free number, even though I don’t want to talk to someone yet. Or made to use a chat widget on a site to get started. I bet when I speak with your sales team, 70-80% of the conversation will be about them, your company, and how amazing you all believe you are. This is all fair. No one starts a company to be mediocre. The goal is to provide value and make money. The missing piece, again like I said above, is no one cares about your goals. They only care about themselves. Predicting What Customers Want From The Sales Experience Back to your mission as sales ops leader – predict what massive amounts of prospective customers are going to want from the Sales Experience. It’s why I wrote about it last week and even offered up a book for free to help in any way that I can. To succeed at your mission, you have to stay ahead of the curve of what the public, and specifically – your buying demographic, psychographic, and valuegraphics, want from that experience. Key Questions To Shape The Sales Experience Do they want to call, text, email or chat? Probably all of them…so can you offer each one? (Don’t make someone decide if they want to go through your hoops…remove all the hoops) Do they need to see pricing online – should it be available and transparent? (In most cases, yes) What sales process will be ideal for moving the most people through the sales conversation to a successful outcome? (More discovery, empathy, active listening. More front-loaded about them, not you. Use the Authentic Persuasion Pathway as your model) Who are the decision makers? Is that individual going to decide or do they need to check with others for approval? (Set them up for success, and don’t force them to make a decision in the moment – you will just lose the potential sale) What type of follow up do they want and need until they make the buying decision? What type of post-purchase follow up would go above and beyond a) their expectations and b) what others in your industry do? If there is an ‘onboarding’ stage after the sale – how can you make that actually customer centric and successful? (It is rarely both) Can You Stay Ahead of the Curve? Remember – evolution is natural. The buying public is always evolving their desired sales experience. Can you predict the future of what they want so that when they encounter your company it matches what they were hoping to find – both in the experience and the solution to their need?
By Jason Cutter February 25, 2025
How do you, as a sales leader, help your team become Oracles that can predict the future? [make sure to read the Selling Effectiveness article this week https://go.sellingeffectiveness.com/LI.2.25.AM ] There are five ways to facilitate their Oracle-ness. Be Present in the Moment First, you have to get your salespeople to be in the moment. The challenge that most salespeople (and…humans, for that matter) experience is they are always thinking ahead. Salespeople default to thinking about what they will say next. The next part of their script or process. The next question they want to ask so they can get through discovery. The next part of the agreement they need to discuss and review. Their mind is too busy thinking about what they are going to say and do next, that they aren’t present. As weird as it sounds, if you want to predict the future you must be present. I have said this for decades: the moment you no longer need to think about what you are going to say/do next and can actually be present with your prospect and truly listen to what they say (and don’t say) – you will become a sales professional. Master Active Listening Second is Active Listening and paying closer attention. It’s actively listening…it’s taking what I mentioned above and putting into place. First step is to be present, second is to actually listen. For what they say. For what they aren’t saying. For changes in their tone. For when they are talking to someone on the side – who are they talking to, and is it about your sales conversation? If you sell in person, reading their body language and facial expressions. You must help them develop an almost sixth sense of listening (and yes, I know hearing is one of our senses…but this goes beyond hearing…it’s truly, deeply listening). Ask Better Questions Third, is to help them ask better questions. So many people in sales ask the discovery questions they are required to ask in order to check the discovery ‘box’. Or, they have done sales long enough they know all the answers, they think they know what everyone wants and why, so no reason to even ask questions. [Note – this type of salesperson thinks two dangerous things: 1 - everyone is the same and wants the same thing, 2 – people like to be sold to.] When your team asks better, deeper discovery questions with a focus on uncovering the what and the WHY, they will get better answers. Remember this – when you ask the right questions and you listen close enough, each prospect will tell you EXACTLY how to help them buy. Build Up Experience Fourth, build up experience. If you want to predict the future it comes from enough experience to know the probability of what will happen. For example, when I am in a season of commuting from home to an office, I am the type of person that can predict exactly what will happen on the freeway. Which lane is always faster around certain exits, which lanes always slow down, how much leaving five minutes later can make the drive suck a lot more. How do I know what will happen on a freeway with hundreds and hundreds of random people? Because of experience (and the fact that most people are just going through the motions in life so they become predictable). The more experience your team has with sales scenarios, they more they can predict the future. I generally see that it takes about six months for most people in a new sales role to have seen enough scenarios where they can start to know what will come next before it happens. Trust Intuition The fifth and final trait to help them with is intuition. One definition of intuition is “a thing that one knows or considers likely from instinctive feeling rather than conscious reasoning.” It’s that feeling you get when you know something, even if you cannot explain it. It’s what Malcom Gladwell wrote about in Blink! It’s what we do very well as humans, even if we don’t listen to it. The more you can help your team tune into their intuition and listen and trust it – the better they will do in helping persuade that other human. This goes back to the first suggestion – about being present. When your team trusts they know what to do and say next and they are mentally living in the moment with that prospective client, they can let their intuition guide them. Conclusion When I do trainings, public speaking, facilitating meetings, interviews, and sales – this is my main key to success. I trust and know that I have the experience to handle whatever comes my way in the present moment, while also knowing the destination I am heading towards. I can be present, let that experience and my intuition guide me instead of getting stuck in my head and worrying about what I will say next. Get your team to do some or all of these five steps – and they will become an amazing Oracle.
By Jason Cutter February 25, 2025
The Oracle’s Role in The Matrix If you have seen the Matrix movies, starring Keanu Reeves (as Neo), then you are familiar with an Oracle. In the movies, the Oracle knows what will happen. She has seen it, and it is predestined. In the Oracles mind there is no such thing as free will. In the first Matrix movie, Neo goes to visit her and knocks a vase off the shelf, and it hits the ground and breaks. Right before he hits it, she says “Don’t worry about the vase.” Neo says, “How did you know?” Then the Oracle responds with “What’s really going to bake your noodle later on, is would you still have broken it if I hadn’t said anything.” Becoming an Oracle in Sales Your mission as a sales professional is to be an Oracle for your prospects and clients. To know the future. Then be able to see around corners, as they say. Which means you know what is going to happen before it happens, because you have enough experience that you have become a psychic. You want to be able to predict, with amazing accuracy: What will happen next What will happen after that What issues will pop up What your prospect/client is thinking before they think it What concerns they might have before they have them Eliminating the Fear of the Unknown During your presentation/demo you want to set the expectation of what is going to occur next. Remember, humans fear the unknown. They want to avoid risk as much as possible. Your sales presentation is risky and dangerous and very unknown. They don’t know if you have good intentions or not. Are you going to persuade them? Are you going to try to manipulate them? Are you going to overcharge them? Will you actually care about what they need and want? Dealing with salespeople is so scary. Yet they still need and/or want something, so it’s the dangerous game they must mentally play. Guiding the Buyer Step by Step When you explain what you are going to do in part 1 of your process, and then what that part is done you let them know the plan for part 2, and so on – they will be at ease in the moment. They will feel like they have control over this portion, that there is an exit they can take if they don’t want to proceed. That level of control will help them accept the risk of part 1, and part 2, and part 3. Tell them what you will do. Do it. Tell them what you did. This will validate that you can be trusted. Predicting Thoughts and Feelings The next level is being able to predict what they will think and feel before they do. You can use this information in your presentation (without telling them what you are doing). You can also verbalize it, which could sound like “I am guessing from experience that you are probably wondering about _____, so let’s cover that right now.” Or “most people I speak with ask about _____.” They will think – wow this person knows what I am thinking, he/she is in my mind! And that’s a good thing. A really good thing. Conclusion The more they feel like you know what you are doing, know what they are thinking, know what they are afraid of – the more they trust you as a Guide. Because Guides only know what they know because they have helped other Heros successfully accomplish their journeys. Your mission as a sales professional: Become an Oracle.
By Jason Cutter February 19, 2025
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By Jason Cutter February 18, 2025
The Numbers Game Mentality is a Losing Strategy Sales is no longer a “numbers game.” You cannot succeed, long term, by focusing on volume of activity. Making a million dials, sending a million emails, knocking on a million doors (the first two are way easier than that last one) is a scorched earth strategy that will sink your business. You can’t out-dial a bad sales process. It will lead to even more bad online reviews. You can’t out-email a terrible sales funnel process that requires people to jump through poorly planned hoops. You can’t out-knock your way past slimy tactics and bad products/services. The Danger of the "Every No Gets Me Closer to a Yes" Mindset The whole “every no gets me one step closer to a yes” mentally is dangerous. That mindset and strategy assumes that it’s a numbers game. That the only thing that matters is finding the right person who will buy from you. Potentially, no matter what you even say – they are just ready to buy. Not only will this destroy any online reputation you have it will also wreak havoc on your team. It is the fastest and best way to burn out your team. It will lead to a revolving door or hiring, training, and quitting as people realize how unfun the game is you have built and how hard it is to be successful. It will also feel like a mismatch – very few people (and hopefully even less over time) are long-term excited about the business model of calling 500 people a day in hopes of making a few sales. If It’s Not a Numbers Game, Then What Is It? It’s quality over quantity. [Now…note – it does take a certain quantity of activity to fill a sales pipeline. So I am not saying that your sales team can just sit and wait for people to fall into their pipeline with money in hand.] It’s about the Sales Experience. It’s about your team ensuring that they are providing the right and best experience for that potential customer – in a way that sets them up to get into the buying mood and mode. All that matters is the Sales Experience. How can you support your team in terms of the quantity of activity to fill a pipeline, and then the quality of interaction that leads to sales? What Does an Ideal Sales Experience Look Like? What does that look like – the ideal Sales Experience? It’s when your team understands that the potential customer they are speaking with only cares about themselves. They don’t care about the salesperson, your company or the product. They are only focused on themselves. It’s when the Discovery/Empathy portion of the conversation is the most important part. Does your team realize that everything after Discovery – when done right – is just a presentation of the solution? It’s the fact that when you combine the parts of the Authentic Persuasion Pathway (Rapport + Empathy + Trust + Hope + Urgency) that the assumptive close is all you need. If your team is having to ask for the sale they are doing sales wrong. And don’t confuse earning the right to close with asking for the sale. The Sales Leader’s Role in Creating a World-Class Sales Experience Your job as a sales leader is to ensure your team understands that the only thing – above all else – is the sales experience they provide to each potential customer. That customer knows that they have the power and the feeling of unlimited choice. Which means they will decide who to give their money to based on the experience they have with buying from a company. How can you shift your team away from the numbers game mentality to actually providing a world class sales experience to each and every person they speak with?
By Jason Cutter February 17, 2025
The Abundance of Options Today we all have lots of options. While writing this I could speak into my phone and order whatever I want. I can get food delivered before I finish writing this article. I could get a TV delivered to my door before I wake up tomorrow. When someone wants to buy something, they are armed with as much information as they want to access. They can research, read reviews, and watch videos about a product or company. The Shift in Power to the Buyer Because of this, the power balance of sales has shifted away from the salesperson and company to the buyer. Knowledge is power – and they now have all the knowledge they want. With knowing that they have ultimate choice of what to buy (internet and globalization has led to the ability to order anything you want from anywhere…so you are no longer limited to the stores you can drive to and what they have on hand), it means that everything is a commodity in their minds. Nothing is unique or special. Everything is interchangeable. Does the Sales Experience Even Matter? So, this means the sales experience doesn’t matter anymore. There is no reason to put effort into the sales process, the conversations with potential customers. No value in spending time trying to ‘help’ people – since they just view products, salespeople, and companies as interchangeable. You are not special, so there is no benefit in caring. They will walk into your store, and they will decide what they want. They fill out your online for, and they decide if they answer when you call and how the call will go. They walk up to your event/booth, and they decide how the interaction will go and if they want to listen to your elevator pitch. They will let you know if they are interested in moving forward. They will let you know how they want to buy. So, like I said above, there is no real value anymore in the sales experience. Or could it actually be valuable? Is it possible that all that matters IS the sales experience? If people feel they have ultimate information and control of the buying process, how do they decide on what to buy and who to buy from? When I search on Amazon for a product type I have never purchased before, how do I pick? When I want to go shopping for garden supplies for the house, how do I pick where to go? When I need to buy a new fridge, who will I hand my money over to? The cheapest place with terrible service? The place with reasonable prices and great service? The Sales Experience Shapes the Decision I choose based on the sales experience that I will receive. With everything else being equal, I (and I believe most people) will select the place to shop at or the products to buy online based on the experience I receive. To me all that matters is the experience. While I am trying to buy something. Once I receive it – ensure it does what I need it to do. With the feeling of unlimited choices, it can actually be harder now to buy something that in the past. People get into analysis paralysis more often. Which means that for consumers to buy something new they need help. They need a professional salesperson. They need a sales experience that matches their expectations. They want a guide who will help them make the right decision for them, with an experience that goes above and beyond what more people receive any more when they walk into a store, call a company’s toll-free number, or visit a website and have to fill out a form. If you want to succeed in sales – the only thing that matters is the sales experience you provide.
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