E61: Sales Mindset Week: Why the mind tricks us into being negative

December 29, 2023


 How do you stay positive and focused in sales, dealing with challenges like rejection and maintaining a winning mindset in a dynamic environment?

A positive mindset is so important yet can be very tough when working in sales.

I did a week of Mindset episodes during Week 2, wanting to address that before any sales-related techniques. But there is only so much I could fit into those episodes.



This week I am going to address mindset again, this time in a little more detail/depth. Of course, there are a ton of books, videos, seminars, and gurus to help with mindset and positivity. But my focus is specifically for salespeople.

In this episode I cover:


  • What is mindset?
  • Why does it matter?
  • Is there a right mindset?
  • Where a negative mindset comes from? (and we all have one)


Also, get your pen and paper, your Evernote/Onenote, or your voice recorder ready – I have a homework assignment for you at the end of the episode.

  • Show Transcript

    Welcome to another week of the sales experience podcast, a new episode.


    This is episode 61 and I’m kicking off what I’m going to call mind set 2.0 week now, week two of the sales experience podcast. Make sure to listen to that. Super Important, very good details. A lot of like high level stuff, whatever I could cram into five, 10 is minute episodes. I did my best.


    Then here we are about three months later and there’s more topics that I’ve been thinking about recently. Looking at the struggles of some of the sales people I’ve been interacting with the teams, seeing different comments, questions online. You know, I just finished four weeks of answering questions.


    There’s some themes that came up in other comments that I got and it’s really about that mind set and it’s how do you stay positive? How do you win as a salesperson on the floor or at the dealership or in appointments?


    Constantly dealing with people. Maybe dealing with rejection a little bit of the time. A lot of the time, depending on what capacity you’re in. You know, if you’re on the phone and you’re doing high volume of calls, like hundreds of calls a day, there’s going to be hundreds of rejections a day.


    If you’re in a low call volume or low meeting volume, you may have two or three meetings a day. Yet you got to make the most of those. So there’s a lot of pressure. So how do you stay positive? That’s my goal with this week is kind of mind set 2.0 topics.


    Now obviously this is a whole course, this is a whole training program, a whole book worth of topics to cover. And like I said last time in week two, there is a lot of things out there on mind set, a lot of already good material that you can listen to, gurus to listen to, people to listen to, videos to watch, all of that.


    However, my focus, and maybe you’ve heard this information before, there’s really nothing new. This might be a good reminder and it’s all going to be focused on the sales person point of view. So not just mind set, not just how do I stay positive and focused and motivated.


    In my life in general, but how do I do it in terms of a sales role? So as a sales professional or a budding sales professional, how do I have their buy the best mind set? How do I do my best to focus on winning even if there’s challenges? And so that’s what I’m going to tackle here.


    We’re going to do some prep. I’m going to spend a few episodes because I already have this in my mind how I want this to go. A few episodes are going to be building the ground work, the framework for the mind set part and the different things to look at.


    Imagine this as a five part mini-series, mini course on mind set. And at the end of each episode, my goal is to give you a small little homework assignment. I know nobody likes homework, but, some things you can do, think about whether you’re into journaling and you want to write the answers down, which is what I highly suggest.


    Just kind of go into it with a question and then let your mind wander and see what happens. Maybe you do a walking meditation kind of thought process. Maybe you do best if you talk about it with somebody else and have a dialogue and just see kind of what things come up in the course of a conversation.


    But just some things to focus on and think about bit by bit here as we tackle the thought of mind set. So first let’s talk about mind set in itself.


    So what is mind set? Basically it’s how you view the world. There’s all kinds of different definitions, but really all that matters in all that it boils down to is how do you view the world? How do you see things through your Lens, which is based on your experiences, it’s combination of nature and nurture, which I’m going to talk about. How do you view things?


    Are you a glass half full that there’s always opportunity and you’re optimistic and you see the better side of things, whether it’s a situation, a relationship, somebody events that happen. Do you kind of look for the silver lining or are you more on the glass half empty side, which is, you know, can be summed up with phrases like no good deed goes unpunished, which is if I do anything good, it’s going to result in something bad anyway.


    Or that with every silver lining there’s a dark cloud, meaning yes there’s a silver lining, but you can’t have that without a dark cloud and let’s focus on the dark cloud.


    So really the mind-set that you have is what your view of the world is. And of course that affects your sales career. So when somebody doesn’t answer or hangs up on you or is upset with you, do you take that personal? Do you think that that’s how all people are?


    Do you think that’s how all prospects are or do you see that as maybe they’re going through something and the next call is going to be better? Do you view opportunities within your sales role or do you see the challenges? You know, that’s really a big deal when it comes to the mind-set if you want to be successful, is understanding. And having the right balance between optimism and pessimism.


    You know what I’ve seen doesn’t work well long term as a sales professional is salespeople or sales leader who have the common phrase which is buyers are liars and just assuming that every prospect, every buyer is lying about everything they’re saying and anything that tell you is a lie and if they don’t buy it’s because they were allying anyway and if they do buy they’re probably lying and they’re going to call back and tell you more lies or want to cancel.


    That kind of perspective I’ll tell you just doesn’t work. That one will be tough for you to find the long term success and really focus on helping people. If you view everybody that you deal with as being negative and somebody who is lying or maybe trying to get one over on you, then you are going to tend to want to try to get things over on them and if that’s the case it’s going to be a tough industry.


    To me, tough business be tough for you to have that professional mind set where you’re now trying to create the best sales experience, which is why you’re here. It’s why you’re listening to this. It’s my focus. I want that blend. So not that a negative mind set is bad. Sometimes negative mind set pushes people to do things that you know they might not do. Right?


    So if you have this negative kind of driver thing where you know the glass is half empty but you are driven by that because you want to win, you know, you’re used to being the underdog, you’re okay with that.


    That may be to your advantage, but you’ve got to be careful with how you view things and how that works and how well that works. So remember, and I talked about this early on in the podcast, uh, you know, in the first couple of weeks, none of this is good or bad or right or wrong, half glass, half full glass, half empty is not right or wrong, good or bad.


    One is not better than the other. It just is. It’s how you view the world and it’s your perspective. And when we’re talking about sales and effectiveness, the question is, is does it serve you? Can you be effective in sales with the mind-set that you have if it’s negative? And so that’s really the question.


    Now let’s get into a negative mind set. So let’s start there and talk about the negative side. Not to be negative, but let’s talk about the negative side.


    I talked about this before. You know, the brain is trying to protect you. The ego is there to protect the organism and make sure that it survives and procreates at the base level. That’s really all that’s involved. When you get down to that.


    So a negative mind set and negative view on the world, the glass is half empty is usually based on there’s nature and there’s nurture, right? So there’s the way that you’re born and just your wiring in general. Then there’s the nurture side, which is how you’re raised, what your parents were like, what they taught you, or the examples they set in their view of the world.


    If they think the world is negative, it’s going to be tough to pick up a positive view of the world. If you tend to follow the way that your parents are and then nurture is also the experiences you had.


    You know, it’s kind of using the example. If you touch the hot stove and you get burned, how many more times do you want to touch the hot stove before learning the lesson and then after you’ve done that, you see a hot stove and you get concerned and you kind of have this negative reflex.


    Same thing happens in life with our mind set, with our ego, with our brain kicking in. If you’ve been hurt in the past, this happens a lot in relationships. If you’ve been hurt in the past in a relationship, then you go into other relationships with this kind of perspective, whether it’s protection mode, preservation mode, or just a scepticism about how other people might be because of what’s happened in the path.


    Same thing with jobs. If you’ve been burned at a, at a company, then you may go into other ones with that same perspective or if you have a more positive outlook you realize, hey things happen.


    I just wanted to, you know, having the more positive mind set but your brain by default is going to kick in. The Ego is going to try to protect you. It’s going to put in the defence mechanisms, it’s going to have you see the world as mostly negative in order to keep you safe and in your comfort zone cause your comfort zone is the safest place for you to be.


    What works don’t go outside of that. So that’s the negative side. You’ve got to identify that. Keep that in mind and keep in mind too, like I’m talking about this in the brome of sales and a sales career, but it’s your life in general and you may find a lot of people are, can be negative in one area, like have a negative kind of view on the world, their mind set in one portion of their life and then a positive other.


    So maybe relationships are always a struggle, but career is great. Maybe family is easy, but finances are rough. And so you may have a like a fractured kind of mind set relative to different buckets of your life and your experiences.


    So we’re talking about sales. Your homework assignment for today, for tonight, for whenever you listen to this is to think about a time when you have a negative mind set. And again, we all have that and I’m and right now for this example, for this homework, what I’m talking about is what triggers you to have that negative mind set.


    If we’re talking about sales specifically and your day in sales, your workday in sales or after your day in sales, and you’re looking back, think about things that trigger it. And I’m not going to give you examples because I want you to think about it on your own, but what triggers you to go into a negative mind set spin in the course of your sales career?


    And what does that look like? What are those triggers and how does that feel? So whether it’s journaling, talking to other people, go on a walk, talking to yourself, recording it into your phone so you can just verbalize it, talking to your pet, whatever that looks like for you. Work on this homework, think about it, and then we’ll keep expanding.


    That’s it for this episode. Make sure to subscribe so you get all of these episodes. You can find it everywhere online that podcasts are available. You can also go to the cutter consulting group.com website slash podcast and find all of the shows. Find the show notes as well as full transcripts for all the episodes when they come out. And until next time.


    Always remember that everything in life is sales and people remember the experience you gave them.


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By Jason Cutter February 26, 2025
How Can You Predict The Future Of Sales Ops? One of the keys to sales success is to be able to predict the future – what that other person is thinking, what they might say, what they will experience, how they will feel about the product/service. But what can you do – from a sales ops leadership perspective – to predict the future in masse of all the potential customers that will flow into and out of the sales process/funnel? That is a really tough one, but it is doable. Meeting Prospective Customers Where They Are The key is to always meet the prospective customers where they are and with the experience they hope to find. It’s a common theme now in these articles because it’s important AND widely disregarded – your potential customers do not care about you, your sales team, your company, your industry. They don’t care about your stats, your testimonials, your logos. They don’t care about your mission statement or your values. They only care about themselves. They also firmly believe that there is currently unlimited choice for any product/service, which means that everything in their mind is a commodity. Easily replaceable and interchangeable. Nothing (other than iPhones…which you can only get from Apple) is special to consumers unless they feel like it should be special. Are You Still Making It All About You? There is a good chance you are still running a marketing, sales funnel that is all about you. I bet if I looked at your company’s website that from the top down it’s all about you (the company). How great you are. What you do for people. What you have done for others. I bet if I tried to speak with your sales team, I will be made to go through your process whether I like it or not. Maybe fill out a form and wait for a response. Or made to call into a toll free number, even though I don’t want to talk to someone yet. Or made to use a chat widget on a site to get started. I bet when I speak with your sales team, 70-80% of the conversation will be about them, your company, and how amazing you all believe you are. This is all fair. No one starts a company to be mediocre. The goal is to provide value and make money. The missing piece, again like I said above, is no one cares about your goals. They only care about themselves. Predicting What Customers Want From The Sales Experience Back to your mission as sales ops leader – predict what massive amounts of prospective customers are going to want from the Sales Experience. It’s why I wrote about it last week and even offered up a book for free to help in any way that I can. To succeed at your mission, you have to stay ahead of the curve of what the public, and specifically – your buying demographic, psychographic, and valuegraphics, want from that experience. Key Questions To Shape The Sales Experience Do they want to call, text, email or chat? Probably all of them…so can you offer each one? (Don’t make someone decide if they want to go through your hoops…remove all the hoops) Do they need to see pricing online – should it be available and transparent? (In most cases, yes) What sales process will be ideal for moving the most people through the sales conversation to a successful outcome? (More discovery, empathy, active listening. More front-loaded about them, not you. Use the Authentic Persuasion Pathway as your model) Who are the decision makers? Is that individual going to decide or do they need to check with others for approval? (Set them up for success, and don’t force them to make a decision in the moment – you will just lose the potential sale) What type of follow up do they want and need until they make the buying decision? What type of post-purchase follow up would go above and beyond a) their expectations and b) what others in your industry do? If there is an ‘onboarding’ stage after the sale – how can you make that actually customer centric and successful? (It is rarely both) Can You Stay Ahead of the Curve? Remember – evolution is natural. The buying public is always evolving their desired sales experience. Can you predict the future of what they want so that when they encounter your company it matches what they were hoping to find – both in the experience and the solution to their need?
By Jason Cutter February 25, 2025
How do you, as a sales leader, help your team become Oracles that can predict the future? [make sure to read the Selling Effectiveness article this week https://go.sellingeffectiveness.com/LI.2.25.AM ] There are five ways to facilitate their Oracle-ness. Be Present in the Moment First, you have to get your salespeople to be in the moment. The challenge that most salespeople (and…humans, for that matter) experience is they are always thinking ahead. Salespeople default to thinking about what they will say next. The next part of their script or process. The next question they want to ask so they can get through discovery. The next part of the agreement they need to discuss and review. Their mind is too busy thinking about what they are going to say and do next, that they aren’t present. As weird as it sounds, if you want to predict the future you must be present. I have said this for decades: the moment you no longer need to think about what you are going to say/do next and can actually be present with your prospect and truly listen to what they say (and don’t say) – you will become a sales professional. Master Active Listening Second is Active Listening and paying closer attention. It’s actively listening…it’s taking what I mentioned above and putting into place. First step is to be present, second is to actually listen. For what they say. For what they aren’t saying. For changes in their tone. For when they are talking to someone on the side – who are they talking to, and is it about your sales conversation? If you sell in person, reading their body language and facial expressions. You must help them develop an almost sixth sense of listening (and yes, I know hearing is one of our senses…but this goes beyond hearing…it’s truly, deeply listening). Ask Better Questions Third, is to help them ask better questions. So many people in sales ask the discovery questions they are required to ask in order to check the discovery ‘box’. Or, they have done sales long enough they know all the answers, they think they know what everyone wants and why, so no reason to even ask questions. [Note – this type of salesperson thinks two dangerous things: 1 - everyone is the same and wants the same thing, 2 – people like to be sold to.] When your team asks better, deeper discovery questions with a focus on uncovering the what and the WHY, they will get better answers. Remember this – when you ask the right questions and you listen close enough, each prospect will tell you EXACTLY how to help them buy. Build Up Experience Fourth, build up experience. If you want to predict the future it comes from enough experience to know the probability of what will happen. For example, when I am in a season of commuting from home to an office, I am the type of person that can predict exactly what will happen on the freeway. Which lane is always faster around certain exits, which lanes always slow down, how much leaving five minutes later can make the drive suck a lot more. How do I know what will happen on a freeway with hundreds and hundreds of random people? Because of experience (and the fact that most people are just going through the motions in life so they become predictable). The more experience your team has with sales scenarios, they more they can predict the future. I generally see that it takes about six months for most people in a new sales role to have seen enough scenarios where they can start to know what will come next before it happens. Trust Intuition The fifth and final trait to help them with is intuition. One definition of intuition is “a thing that one knows or considers likely from instinctive feeling rather than conscious reasoning.” It’s that feeling you get when you know something, even if you cannot explain it. It’s what Malcom Gladwell wrote about in Blink! It’s what we do very well as humans, even if we don’t listen to it. The more you can help your team tune into their intuition and listen and trust it – the better they will do in helping persuade that other human. This goes back to the first suggestion – about being present. When your team trusts they know what to do and say next and they are mentally living in the moment with that prospective client, they can let their intuition guide them. Conclusion When I do trainings, public speaking, facilitating meetings, interviews, and sales – this is my main key to success. I trust and know that I have the experience to handle whatever comes my way in the present moment, while also knowing the destination I am heading towards. I can be present, let that experience and my intuition guide me instead of getting stuck in my head and worrying about what I will say next. Get your team to do some or all of these five steps – and they will become an amazing Oracle.
By Jason Cutter February 25, 2025
The Oracle’s Role in The Matrix If you have seen the Matrix movies, starring Keanu Reeves (as Neo), then you are familiar with an Oracle. In the movies, the Oracle knows what will happen. She has seen it, and it is predestined. In the Oracles mind there is no such thing as free will. In the first Matrix movie, Neo goes to visit her and knocks a vase off the shelf, and it hits the ground and breaks. Right before he hits it, she says “Don’t worry about the vase.” Neo says, “How did you know?” Then the Oracle responds with “What’s really going to bake your noodle later on, is would you still have broken it if I hadn’t said anything.” Becoming an Oracle in Sales Your mission as a sales professional is to be an Oracle for your prospects and clients. To know the future. Then be able to see around corners, as they say. Which means you know what is going to happen before it happens, because you have enough experience that you have become a psychic. You want to be able to predict, with amazing accuracy: What will happen next What will happen after that What issues will pop up What your prospect/client is thinking before they think it What concerns they might have before they have them Eliminating the Fear of the Unknown During your presentation/demo you want to set the expectation of what is going to occur next. Remember, humans fear the unknown. They want to avoid risk as much as possible. Your sales presentation is risky and dangerous and very unknown. They don’t know if you have good intentions or not. Are you going to persuade them? Are you going to try to manipulate them? Are you going to overcharge them? Will you actually care about what they need and want? Dealing with salespeople is so scary. Yet they still need and/or want something, so it’s the dangerous game they must mentally play. Guiding the Buyer Step by Step When you explain what you are going to do in part 1 of your process, and then what that part is done you let them know the plan for part 2, and so on – they will be at ease in the moment. They will feel like they have control over this portion, that there is an exit they can take if they don’t want to proceed. That level of control will help them accept the risk of part 1, and part 2, and part 3. Tell them what you will do. Do it. Tell them what you did. This will validate that you can be trusted. Predicting Thoughts and Feelings The next level is being able to predict what they will think and feel before they do. You can use this information in your presentation (without telling them what you are doing). You can also verbalize it, which could sound like “I am guessing from experience that you are probably wondering about _____, so let’s cover that right now.” Or “most people I speak with ask about _____.” They will think – wow this person knows what I am thinking, he/she is in my mind! And that’s a good thing. A really good thing. Conclusion The more they feel like you know what you are doing, know what they are thinking, know what they are afraid of – the more they trust you as a Guide. Because Guides only know what they know because they have helped other Heros successfully accomplish their journeys. Your mission as a sales professional: Become an Oracle.
By Jason Cutter February 19, 2025
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By Jason Cutter February 18, 2025
The Numbers Game Mentality is a Losing Strategy Sales is no longer a “numbers game.” You cannot succeed, long term, by focusing on volume of activity. Making a million dials, sending a million emails, knocking on a million doors (the first two are way easier than that last one) is a scorched earth strategy that will sink your business. You can’t out-dial a bad sales process. It will lead to even more bad online reviews. You can’t out-email a terrible sales funnel process that requires people to jump through poorly planned hoops. You can’t out-knock your way past slimy tactics and bad products/services. The Danger of the "Every No Gets Me Closer to a Yes" Mindset The whole “every no gets me one step closer to a yes” mentally is dangerous. That mindset and strategy assumes that it’s a numbers game. That the only thing that matters is finding the right person who will buy from you. Potentially, no matter what you even say – they are just ready to buy. Not only will this destroy any online reputation you have it will also wreak havoc on your team. It is the fastest and best way to burn out your team. It will lead to a revolving door or hiring, training, and quitting as people realize how unfun the game is you have built and how hard it is to be successful. It will also feel like a mismatch – very few people (and hopefully even less over time) are long-term excited about the business model of calling 500 people a day in hopes of making a few sales. If It’s Not a Numbers Game, Then What Is It? It’s quality over quantity. [Now…note – it does take a certain quantity of activity to fill a sales pipeline. So I am not saying that your sales team can just sit and wait for people to fall into their pipeline with money in hand.] It’s about the Sales Experience. It’s about your team ensuring that they are providing the right and best experience for that potential customer – in a way that sets them up to get into the buying mood and mode. All that matters is the Sales Experience. How can you support your team in terms of the quantity of activity to fill a pipeline, and then the quality of interaction that leads to sales? What Does an Ideal Sales Experience Look Like? What does that look like – the ideal Sales Experience? It’s when your team understands that the potential customer they are speaking with only cares about themselves. They don’t care about the salesperson, your company or the product. They are only focused on themselves. It’s when the Discovery/Empathy portion of the conversation is the most important part. Does your team realize that everything after Discovery – when done right – is just a presentation of the solution? It’s the fact that when you combine the parts of the Authentic Persuasion Pathway (Rapport + Empathy + Trust + Hope + Urgency) that the assumptive close is all you need. If your team is having to ask for the sale they are doing sales wrong. And don’t confuse earning the right to close with asking for the sale. The Sales Leader’s Role in Creating a World-Class Sales Experience Your job as a sales leader is to ensure your team understands that the only thing – above all else – is the sales experience they provide to each potential customer. That customer knows that they have the power and the feeling of unlimited choice. Which means they will decide who to give their money to based on the experience they have with buying from a company. How can you shift your team away from the numbers game mentality to actually providing a world class sales experience to each and every person they speak with?
By Jason Cutter February 17, 2025
The Abundance of Options Today we all have lots of options. While writing this I could speak into my phone and order whatever I want. I can get food delivered before I finish writing this article. I could get a TV delivered to my door before I wake up tomorrow. When someone wants to buy something, they are armed with as much information as they want to access. They can research, read reviews, and watch videos about a product or company. The Shift in Power to the Buyer Because of this, the power balance of sales has shifted away from the salesperson and company to the buyer. Knowledge is power – and they now have all the knowledge they want. With knowing that they have ultimate choice of what to buy (internet and globalization has led to the ability to order anything you want from anywhere…so you are no longer limited to the stores you can drive to and what they have on hand), it means that everything is a commodity in their minds. Nothing is unique or special. Everything is interchangeable. Does the Sales Experience Even Matter? So, this means the sales experience doesn’t matter anymore. There is no reason to put effort into the sales process, the conversations with potential customers. No value in spending time trying to ‘help’ people – since they just view products, salespeople, and companies as interchangeable. You are not special, so there is no benefit in caring. They will walk into your store, and they will decide what they want. They fill out your online for, and they decide if they answer when you call and how the call will go. They walk up to your event/booth, and they decide how the interaction will go and if they want to listen to your elevator pitch. They will let you know if they are interested in moving forward. They will let you know how they want to buy. So, like I said above, there is no real value anymore in the sales experience. Or could it actually be valuable? Is it possible that all that matters IS the sales experience? If people feel they have ultimate information and control of the buying process, how do they decide on what to buy and who to buy from? When I search on Amazon for a product type I have never purchased before, how do I pick? When I want to go shopping for garden supplies for the house, how do I pick where to go? When I need to buy a new fridge, who will I hand my money over to? The cheapest place with terrible service? The place with reasonable prices and great service? The Sales Experience Shapes the Decision I choose based on the sales experience that I will receive. With everything else being equal, I (and I believe most people) will select the place to shop at or the products to buy online based on the experience I receive. To me all that matters is the experience. While I am trying to buy something. Once I receive it – ensure it does what I need it to do. With the feeling of unlimited choices, it can actually be harder now to buy something that in the past. People get into analysis paralysis more often. Which means that for consumers to buy something new they need help. They need a professional salesperson. They need a sales experience that matches their expectations. They want a guide who will help them make the right decision for them, with an experience that goes above and beyond what more people receive any more when they walk into a store, call a company’s toll-free number, or visit a website and have to fill out a form. If you want to succeed in sales – the only thing that matters is the sales experience you provide.
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